Posts by life is to short

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Go on welfare!

by life is to short in

i am going to make this short.

i ran into a older jw women who i have known my whole life.

she is pushing 80 and will never change.

I am going to make this short. I ran into a older JW women who I have known my whole life. She is pushing 80 and will never change. Well anyway the subject of retiring came up and I mentioned how pioneering and going to Bethel did not give a 401 plan and that I will probably have to work until I am at least 75.

Now this women in all fairness is a really nice person and is just totally mind controlled by the cult. She really does not have any true reasoning ability. I totally got that from talking with her last week and it made me sad. Her husband is not a JW and they have a pension and SS money, They say they struggle but they do fine.

So without missing a beat she said just stop working and go on welfare. I was just blown away. She said that at least one JW lady get better care than those who support themselves.

I tried to argue with her about how taking from the government was wrong when I had chosen my life and I had made the decision to pioneer, etc and that it was not fair to expect others to support me now through taxes but I just let it go realizing that it was impossible to reason with her. She was going to think what she thinks and she sees nothing wrong with using the system.

I just could never take like that but that truly is the JW mind set.

Speaking of which it is off to work for me now.

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You have to be strong

by troubled mind in

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standing up for yourself,and deciding to follow your own path takes strength .

you have to be strong especially if you were raised in a way of life that dictated so much of who you were .

while being raised as a jehovah's witness i was taught to follow ,unquestionally follow .i was told to put others before myself ,serve,don't stand out ,don't be independent .

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TM

What you wrote here was myself to a tee. When I was a Witness there were so many times that I just rolled over, and did anything to please others no matter how I was affected . I often would just think I was wrong ,and everyone else was right . I felt like a doormat .

That was totally me. I jumped through hoops and hoops trying to please everyone and hating myself for going against my principals. I was always being put down and made to feel horrible for not doing what was demanded of me.

I just realized that this post is 8 months old but I saw it at a perfect time. I worked late last night cleaning a home that my job is moving out of. I started cleaning for her 11 years ago when she bought the home. 11 years ago she asked me to do a deep clean for her before she moved in and the house was really dirty. I spent about 20 hours over the weekend cleaning it. She paid me well for my time and hired me to clean for her every two weeks since.

Last night as I was cleaning for the final time and it was so much easier than when she moved in because she and I both had maintained the home. What I remembered the most about the first time of cleaning for her was the huge fight that I got into with my husband over it because I had to miss a Saturday of field service.

My husband blew up at me telling me I was taking time from Jehovah for money, etc. Last night I was remembering how sad I was 11 years ago, how I did not even want to go home. We needed the money going out in service was not feeding us and paying our bills, My cleaning homes were. The move in was such hard work as the previous owners had not been clean. I even took time to make the talk and WT that Sunday. I was so wiped that I slept though the whole meeting. But crazy as it was I was there.

I just remember how horrible I felt the way my husband was treating me for working. I part of me just wanted to die and another part of me was so happy because I made the home look so great just cleaning it. Not that I am bragging but I must of done something right because she kept me working for her for the next 11 years.

Its just so sad how the JW's put you down and make you feel so low for being normal and trying to make a living instead of living off the government. It's also sadly funny that many of those who put me down were making a really good living and have new car, etc. Yet I could never see it for some stupid reason. When they put me down I just accepted their view of me. Crazy looking back now.

I am such a different person now than I was 11 years ago. I do not go out in service anymore. Haven't since 09. I am trying so hard to not let what others tell me affect me so negatively.

I loved your post from 8 months ago about your relative in her 60's who told you that you hurt her for leaving the religion. When I was told things like that I used to also just go into such a dark place in my mind, even thinking of suicide at times. I loved what you said here A few yrs ago I would have been crushed to know I had caused someone to feel hurt .I would have accepted all blame and done whatever I could to make it better

11 years ago that would have been me. Now as you said I am trying to change. I think you said it well here I did not apologize for our choices ,and I did not accept any blame . As time passes you start to see the progress of leaving cult like thinking behind . It is quite the journey .

Thank you for such a great post.

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Paul Grundy being interviewed on ABC 612 right now

by Anonymous1 in

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/stations/local_brisbane/live?play=true

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Just got home from work and listened to the first part. Loved it will listen to the rest tomorrow.

Thanks Paul for what you do, you really have helped so many.

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New video "Jehovah Has Done So Much for Me"

by NoIdeaWhatToBelieve in

hey all,.

have you seen the new video on http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/adult-survivor-child-abuse-video/ ?.

isn't this too much of a coincidence?

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When I told an elder what my dad had done to me as a child the elder looked straight at me and told me I was LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then the whole elder body said I was mentally crazy. The real kicker was even though my dad was a baptized JW they did not like him. My whole growing up all the elders treated my dad and by extension my family like we were scum on their feet. I remember once on the way back from an summer assembly our car broke down and my dad was able to pull into a rest stop, an elder just happened to be right next to us. When he looked over and saw us with the smoke billowing out from under the hood of the car, the elder put his car in reverse and burned rubber leaving. I was ten and I still remember the sick feeling I had in my gut with the hate I saw in that elder's eyes toward my dad and I felt myself.

I was a 45 year old women at the time I told the elder that, not some young child or teenager. I was crushed and tried to commit suicide at that age. I was still a very true believer. I cannot imagine how a child could face an elder like that one. Than I found this sight and from this sight I learned TTATT.

I got more comfort from this sight than I ever did in my 45 plus years as a JW. Flipper and his wife, OTWO, Madgwitch, Lois Lane, so many reached out and I have become friends with.

Never once did I ever feel like that women in the JW faith.

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exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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now that enough time has passed and i've moved away, i think i'm overdue to share some of the stories from my fade.

i've mentioned some of this before, but i think it deserves its own thread.. we all would like to be able to freely ask questions about jw beliefs and get our family and friends to really think about certain questions.

however, when you're a baptized jw, you really can't ask any good questions or you'll get the "apostate" label slapped on you!

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Thanks Billy. Love how you think. I truly hope to be able to use this someday. I only wish my mind worked as well as yours. I have learned so much form you being on this board. Great ideas.

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Phone call straight after the Royal Commission

by umbertoecho in

straight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.

it was one of the people who are working on it.

firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.

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Umbertoecho

I agree with Crow that you are truly a hero. Thank you.

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I watched Mr. Jackson last night with my super cult minded parents

by Magwitch in

i have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.

here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).

my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.

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I think it was so kind of you Magwitch to be with you parents but I also think it is just so hugely sad the way they reacted.

It's such a way of life for them but its just so sad that they have put their trust in such a false hope. I agree with you though at their age there is noting to gain by trying to change them.

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Part 1 Video UP Geoffrey Jacksons questioning at the Australia Commission

by Watchtower-Free in

1st half to nights video .

higher quality later.

http://youtu.be/quud_f1jr7e .

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Thanks for the part two. I was amazed that I watched all of part one and could not stop. Don't have time for watching part two right now but looking forward. Thank you for putting this out.

It's just been amazing and such an eye opener.

Thank you again for all who have done this.

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